Rule 1: Be respectful. There will be always things writers didnt have time to write about. That's pretty much the theme of his whole character. +You came alone,+ replied Ahriman after a heartbeat’s pause. And Ahriman’s face being a screaming void is like cranking that up to 11. [–]BrotherAhzek 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (5 children). It's worth noting that the Ahriman trilogy takes place largely at the beginning of his quest for power. The response basically boiled down to "The missing Legions inherently have no answer, therefore you can interpret what has not happened as well. So do most of the narrators when they are talking to each other, but we are supposed to believe that everyone in the setting is an unreliable narrator, so. Like his fellow Thousand Sons, Ahriman was a loyal servant of the Emperor when the Horus Heresy began. Khayon throwing shade at Ahriman like he always does. [–]Astra MilitarumSergeantMerrick 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (0 children). And the entirety of Atlas Infernal takes place in the opening stages of the 13th Black Crusade. What might the initial talks look like? At the beginning of the fight, the Eldar are exclusively involved in fighting the Thousand Sons in the webway. Assuming that the worst (for everyone else) theories regarding the Tyranid Hive size are true, would/could we ever see a totally united galaxy to fight back against them? [Excerpt: Turn of the Adder] A Drukhari experiences the invitation of Ynnead and turn from the supremacy of Commorragh. Please don't use this as a platform to promote your blog, crowdfunding, or anything of the ilk. The interregna scenes are actually during the 13th Black Crusade, particularly the very beginning of it where the traitors just started pouring out of the Eye. Much more fun that way. Aaron essentially gave us an answer that makes us ask a million follow up questions with Khayon's remark. Take a look at the Eye of Terror codex and you'll find that Czevak's abduction was a significant part of the overall prologue to the 13th Black Crusade. The Thousand Sons legionary gave a Nostraman hand gesture of greeting, palm open and out to show no violent intent, and Sevatar smiled at the courtesy because smiling was something people were supposed to do. It's like the Lost Legions. Khayon is just as twisted and flawed as any who survive long in the Eye. I think for wizards of the level of Ahriman and Khayon inside the actual eye of terror, physical appearance is strictly in the nonconsequential territory. The idea of Ahriman simply melting his own face off from all the insane knowledge he has gathered, but not even noticing is still a cool concept. [–]Kaoshosh 13 points14 points15 points 2 years ago (3 children). Feel free to offer your own opinion on the OP however. The Ahriman trilogy takes place thousands of years before that. That's why he'll cry as he throws his bothers into the flames, as he literally does several times. 3) Immediately after breaking out of the Black Library the 2nd time, Czevak shows up on the Malescaythe, which leads into the overall plot of the book. [Excerpt: Turn of the Adder] A Drukhari experiences the invitation of Ynnead and turn from the supremacy of Commorragh. Show More. /u/JIDF-Shill's Horus Heresy comprehensive reading order, /u/Ghoul_Stars’ Video Journey Through 40k. Do your best to provide lore-based reasoning behind your answer. Or how Ra, when psychically assisted by the Emperor in Master of Mankind, could see that the soul of the priest-king of Maulland-Sen was practically hollowed out by the influence of the chaos gods despite his otherwise normal appearance. +There are other deeds that can place a burden on a life. When he looked down, Khayon had not moved. [–]Medraut_Orthon 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). Persian, basically. Khayon is pointing out that he'd be like Ahriman if he stayed with the Thousand Sons: he'd also be blind to his own hypocrisy. Khayon is telling the Inquisition what they want to hear in an attempt to manipulate them in some way. [–]Squidmaster616 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (0 children), [–]Thousand Sonsr3dl3g 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (1 child). that overpopulates 40k equally easy and boring. In Ahriman: Unchanged , Ahzek went 'oh hey Khayon, gonna interfere again? Rendered by PID 2204 on r2-app-0d9523b256b1cf224 at 2020-12-01 01:38:00.197859+00:00 running c068927 country code: US. I want to know a LOT more about the unification wars. Klaisus is of course the moon that the survivors of Cadia flee to setting up the confrontation between Ahriman and Yvraine. [–]Representative of the InquisitionxSPYXEx 27 points28 points29 points 2 years ago (4 children). This is metaphorical or something in the Eye of Terror. It's fun to discuss, but unimportant enough that it doesn't affect the enjoyment. Does he actually have no face or is the quote referencing the mental state of AA? Posts featuring self-promotion will be removed. Much like 40k fans, really. (Although it's not a huge surprise to see someone with a literal Ahriman screen name insisting it's nonsense, mind you.). **Atlas Infernal is one of the last books written with the now defunct canon that was the 13th Black Crusade campaign. [–]dvmitto 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (2 children). Rule 4b: Do not post just links (YouTube, Imgur, Bell of Lost Souls, etc). Yet I have seen the void that screams where his face used to be. Edit: I did spell anymore wrong in the title and it was an intentional effort to spread madness on Tzeentch's behalf. You have been warned. [–]Thousand Sonsr3dl3g 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (0 children). Whatever you like! How many hate it? Saying this whole appearance aspect is down to perception and interpretation would be totally fair. Doesnt the third book mention Ahriman has to pull some Iron Man shit by using his powers to keep some consecrated shards from killing him by piercing his heart? Anyway, I like the idea of it being all of the options and none of them. People need to think more about who's saying what and why. 12 Comments. There's no real answer, maybe it's a psychic vortex that only powerful sorcerers can see, maybe Khayon is just being a dick since he hates Ahriman so much. ", [–]BanMeIMakeNew 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (3 children). In my mind the events of Atlas Infernal fit best best right at the start of the 13th BC, as this gives Ahriman plenty of time to set up his forces for both the events of the novel and his later ambush on the Ynnari. [–]TyranidsTyranid_Swarmlord 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (0 children), and feel free to tell John to write another Ahriman novel), [–]Tau Empirejesus67 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child), [–]BrotherAhzek 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). Sure lore can change(and feel free to tell John to write another Ahriman novel) but taking Khayon's opinion over an actual depiction in the novel is stretching things. Ahzek Ahriman closed the distance between himself and Salem, raising a single finger to emphasize his next point. ADB's is newer and will upvoted more I'm sure. Wiz: He was born on Terra in the 30thh Millennium, among the wealthy tribes of the Achaemenid Empire. That's kind of their thing...It's the Corgis who don't lie. It's why his story is a tragedy, and it's what makes him interesting. I always imagine him as either black or as a beduin looking guy. The Rubric, Ahriman's blindness to his own manipulations by the God of Change, etc. It was added to it, which doesn't really strike me as a retcon. Psykers perceive them as hideous and decayed. Ahzek Ahriman, also known as Sorcerer of the Red Cyclops and Ahriman of the Thousand Sons, is an exceptionally powerful Chaos Space Marine sorcerer belonging to the Thousand Sons legion.He roams the galaxy commanding a warband, raiding and plundering bastions of information. [–]Representative of the InquisitionxSPYXEx 17 points18 points19 points 2 years ago (6 children). [–]Thousand SonsWheresMyCrown 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (1 child). Khayon, given his power, would see through that and through Ahriman's unconscious hypocrisy. Because the War in the Webway was in the later stages of the Eye of Terror campaign event, which is the part that was retconned, but brought back (sort of) in Gathering Storm. Well can see Ahriman 's face should be along with it. his clawed fingers to... 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